SEMINOLE COUNTY, FLORIDA  
COUNTY SERVICES BUILDING  
1101 EAST FIRST STREET  
SANFORD, FLORIDA  
32771­1468  
Meeting Minutes  
Tuesday, January 9, 2024  
9:30 AM  
BCC Chambers  
Board of County Commissioners  
I. CALL TO ORDER  
Chairman Jay Zembower  
Present:  
Vice Chairman Andria Herr  
Commissioner Bob Dallari  
Commissioner Lee Constantine  
Commissioner Amy Lockhart  
Additional Attendees: County Manager Darren Gray, County Attorney Kate Latorre, Clerk of  
Court & Comptroller Grant Maloy, and Deputy Clerks Kyla Farrell and Terri Porter.  
II. INVOCATION & PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE  
Kurt Slafkovsky, SGTV Senior Video Coordinator, Office of Communications, gave the  
invocation. Jeremiah Robinson, IT Services, led the Pledge of Allegiance.  
III. AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS  
1.  
2.  
Presentation - Coyotes and Bobcats (Jayne Johnston, Sr Wildlife  
Assistance Biologist, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission)  
Ms. Johnston addressed the Board and presented the Coyotes and Bobcats Wildlife  
Assistance Program presentation. There were few Board comments, suggestions, and  
questions.  
Quarterly Report - Soil and Water Conservation District (Gabrielle Milch)  
Ms. Milch addressed the Board to present the Quarterly Report for the Soil and Water  
Conservation District. There were few Board comments, suggestions, and questions.  
IV. CONSENT AGENDA – PUBLIC PARTICIPATION  
County Manager Darren Gray announced the deletion of Agenda Item 12, Corridor  
Partnership Agreement with UCF Research Foundation and associated Budget Amendment  
Request, and advised it will be brought back at a later date.  
Commissioner Lockhart requested to pull Agenda Item 10, Memorandum of Understanding  
with Spay N Save, for a separate vote.  
Motion by Vice Chairman Herr, seconded by Commissioner Dallari, to approve Constitutional  
Officer's Consent Agenda Item 3 and County Manager's Consent Agenda Items 4 - 10, and  
13 - 17.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
(The Consent Agenda motion was reconsidered before the Regular Agenda.)  
Constitutional Officers – Consent Agenda (Item No. 3)  
3.  
Expenditure Approval Lists dated November 29, December 6 and 13,  
2023; Payroll Approval List dated December 7, 2023; and the BCC  
Official Minutes dated November 14, 2023. (Jenny Spencer, CPA,  
CGFO, and CFE, Director-Comptroller’s Office)  
County Manager’s Consent Agenda (Items No. 4 - 17)  
Community Services  
4.  
Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute the Recovery  
Connections, Inc. Community Mental Health and Substance Use Disorder  
Services Agreement Amendment in the amount of $200,000 to provide  
recovery focused mental health and substance use disorder services to  
engage Seminole County residents who are seeking recovery, in  
recovery, or in need of recovery focused support services. Countywide  
(Kelly Welch, Community Health Division Manager)  
Development Services  
5.  
Approve the request for a Release of Lien for a vacant property located at  
600 Shadowmoss Circle, Lake Mary, Parcel No.  
03-20-29-5PG-FB00-0000, that was attached due to a Code Enforcement  
Special Magistrate lien of $232,500.00 for Case # 17-91-CESM, filed  
against Magnolia Golf Club Holding LLC (Magnolia Golf Club Holding  
LLC, Applicant) District5 - Herr (Liz Parkhurst, Project Manager).  
6.  
7.  
8.  
Authorize the Chairman to execute a Satisfaction of Lien in the amount of  
$2,934.99 associated with the property located at 305 Sweetwater Club  
Circle, Longwood, FL 32779; filed against Ruth A. McAdams; District3 -  
Constantine (Mary Robinson, Planning and Development Project  
Manager).  
Approve the Final Plat for the Carneal’s Addition to Chuluota Subdivision  
containing one (1) lot on 16.07 acres zoned A-5 (Rural), located on the  
east side of Lake Mills Road, approximately one (1) mile north of  
Curryville Road; (Robert Carneal, Applicant) District1 - Dallari (Annie  
Sillaway, Planning and Development Project Manager)  
Adopt the Resolution approving the operation of the Housing Finance  
Authority of Volusia County in Seminole County to issue its multifamily  
Housing Revenue Bonds in one or more series to provide funds to finance  
Riverbend Landings Apartment Homes Phase II (Atlantic Housing  
Partners, Applicant); Countywide (Rebecca Hammock, Development  
Services Director and Allison Thall, Community Services Director).  
Resolution 2024-R-1  
Emergency Management  
9. Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute a Memorandum of  
Understanding (MOU) between Tuskawilla United Methodist Church and  
Seminole County to act as an emergency shelter during a state or local  
emergency. Countywide (Alan Harris, Emergency Management Director)  
10  
Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute the Memorandum of  
Agreement with Spay and Save Inc. for support with the Trap Neuter  
Vaccinate Return (TNVR) program. Countywide (Alan Harris - Emergency  
Management Director)  
Pulled for separate discussion/vote.  
Innovation and Strategic Initiatives  
11.  
Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute the Seminole County  
Government - the National Entrepreneur Center Master Services  
Agreement in the amount of $45,000 for the purpose of providing small  
businesses and entrepreneurs access to professional business  
assistance, quality educational programming, and practical industry  
expertise in Seminole County. Countywide (Guilherme Cunha, Economic  
Development & Tourism Administrator)  
12.  
Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute the Seminole County  
Government - The Corridor Master Services Agreement in the amount of  
$300,000 for the purpose of providing an industry cluster initiative crucial  
for fostering collaboration and innovation within the high-tech ecosystem;  
and approve and authorize the Chairman to execute a Resolution  
implementing the Budget Amendment Request (BAR) #24-020 to  
appropriate an interfund transfer from the General Fund to the Economic  
Development Fund. Countywide (Guilherme Cunha, Economic  
Development & Tourism Administrator)  
Pulled from the agenda.  
Management and Budget  
13. Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute a Resolution  
implementing Budget Amendment Request (BAR) #24-015 in the MSBU  
Program Fund to transfer $100,000 from reserves for Rice Lake Lake  
Management Municipal Services Benefit Unit (MSBU) Phase I (capital)  
restoration services. Countywide (Timothy Jecks, Director of  
Management & Budget)  
Resolution #2024-R-2  
BAR #24-015  
Public Works  
14. Authorize Chairman to execute the Decorative Sign Agreement between  
Markham Meadows Homeowners Association, Inc., and Seminole  
County. District5- Herr (Jean Jreij, P.E., Public Works Director)  
Resource Management  
15. Approve the ranking list and authorize staff to negotiate rates in  
accordance with Section 287.055, Florida Statutes, the Consultants  
Competitive Negotiation Act (CCNA), and authorize the Purchasing and  
Contracts Division to execute two (2) Master Service Agreements (MSA’s)  
for PS-5135-23/TAD - Professional Engineering and Architectural  
Services for Solid Waste Management Division Including Municipal Solid  
Waste Landfill and Transfer Station. Countywide (Diane Reed,  
Purchasing and Contracts Division Manager) Requesting Department -  
Environmental Services  
16.  
17.  
Approve ratification from the Board for the submittal of the FEMA Flood  
Mitigation Assistance grant applications for three Seminole County  
homeowners that experienced flooding from Hurricane Ian in 2022; and  
authorize the County Manager or designee to execute any documents  
associated with the grant applications. Countywide (Alan Harris,  
Emergency Management Director) Requesting Department - Emergency  
Management  
Approve and authorize the Chairman to submit the Emergency Medical  
Services (EMS) Trust Grant Resolution and Application in the amount of  
$63,897.50 from the State of Florida Department of Health to be used for  
the purchase handheld point-of-care (POC) lactate monitors for  
emergency medical services providers; and to execute a Budget  
Amendment Request (BAR) #24-018 through the EMS Trust Grant Fund  
in the amount of $63,897.50; and authorize the County Manager or  
designee to execute all future documents associated with the grant.  
Countywide (Timothy Jecks, Management and Budget Director)  
Requesting Department- Fire Department  
Resolution #2024-R-3  
Resolution #2024-R-4  
BAR #24-018  
Items Pulled for Separate Discussion/Vote  
Emergency Management  
10.  
Approve and authorize the Chairman to execute the Memorandum of  
Agreement with Spay and Save Inc. for support with the Trap Neuter  
Vaccinate Return (TNVR) program. Countywide (Alan Harris - Emergency  
Management Director)  
Commissioner Lockhart asked staff to discuss the progression of the TNVR program.  
Mr. Harris addressed the Board and discussed the program at the Commissioner's  
request. Commissioner Lockhart confirmed with Mr. Harris that the only group that has  
asked to partner with the County regarding spaying and neutering is Spay N Save.  
Motion by Commissioner Lockhart, seconded by Commissioner Constantine, to  
approve and authorize the Chairman to execute the Memorandum of Agreement with  
Spay N Save, in support of the TNVR program.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
Reconsideration of Consent Vote  
Chairman Zembower asked for reconsideration on the original Consent Agenda vote to  
approve Agenda Items 3 - 10 and 13 - 17. Agenda Item 11 was not included in the motion,  
and Agenda Item 10 had been requested to be pulled for separate discussion and vote.  
Motion by Commissioner Constantine, seconded by Commissioner Dallari, to reconsider the  
Consent Agenda motion.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
Motion by Vice Chairman Herr, seconded by Commissioner Constantine, to approve Consent  
Agenda Item 11 as follows: approve and authorize the Chairman to execute the National  
Entrepreneur Center Master Services Agreement in the amount of $45,000 for the purpose of  
providing small businesses and entrepreneurs access to professional business assistance,  
quality educational programming, and practical industry expertise in Seminole County.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
V. REGULAR AGENDA  
18.  
Consider a request to reduce a Code Enforcement Special Magistrate  
lien, from $84,300.00 to $4,000.00, for Case # 18-23-CESM, on the  
property located at 3451 Dawn Court, Lake Mary, Tax Parcel ID:  
02-20-29-503-0000-0120, (Ahmad Mohammed, Applicant); District5 - Herr  
(Liz Parkhurst, Planning and Development Project Manager)  
Ms. Parkhurst addressed the Board and presented the item as outlined in the agenda  
memorandum. It was determined that the Applicant was present, and Ahmad  
Mohammed addressed the Board to discuss the history of the property. There were  
questions from the Board for the Applicant and staff.  
Motion by Vice Chairman Herr, seconded by Chairman Zembower, to deny the request  
for reduction of the Code Enforcement Special Magistrate lien, from $84,300.00 to  
$4,000.00, for Case #18-23-CESM, on the property located at 3451 Dawn Court, Lake  
Mary, Tax Parcel ID: 02-20-29-503-0000-0120, owned by Ahmad Mohammed,  
Applicant; require payment of the lien in the amount of $84,300.00; and authorize the  
Chairman to execute the Release of Lien upon payment in full.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
19.  
Wekiva Island Paint Out and Spring Fling Special Event Permit - Consider  
a Special Event Permit for the Wekiva Island Paint Out and Spring Fling  
on Sunday, February 25, 2024 through Thursday, March 21, 2024; with  
the exception of the following days: March 8, 9, 15, and 16, 2024, which  
will have normal business operations and are not a part of the Special  
Event request, located at 1014 Miami Springs Dr. Longwood; (Mary Sue  
Weinaug, Applicant) District3 - Constantine (Mary Robinson, Planning and  
Development Project Manager)  
Rebecca Hammock, Development Services Director, addressed the Board and  
presented the item as outlined in the agenda memorandum. There were no questions.  
Applicant Mary Sue Weinaug addressed the Board and clarified that the auction is  
Wednesday, February 28, so there will be amplified sound under the solar array that  
day; and the gala is Saturday, March 2, and will also have amplified sound.  
With regard to public participation, Jeff Stammer spoke in support of the Special Event  
Permit. No one else spoke, and public input was closed.  
Public Comment Form was received and filed.  
Motion by Commissioner Constantine, seconded by Commissioner Lockhart, to  
approve the Wekiva Island Paint Out and Spring Fling Special Event Permit for  
Sunday, February 25, 2024, through Thursday, March 21, 2024, with the exception of  
the following days: March 3 through 9, and 15 through 16, 2024, which will be under  
normal business operations and are not a part of the Special Event request, located at  
1014 Miami Springs Dr., Longwood; Mary Sue Weinaug, Applicant.  
Under discussion, Commissioner Dallari asked about the conflict of dates for amplified  
sound. Ms. Hammock advised staff's speaking notes had the dates incorrect, and Ms.  
Weinaug was correcting the dates for the record.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
V1. WORKSESSION  
The Chairman recessed the meeting at 11:01 a.m., reconvening at 11:15 a.m.  
20.  
Traffic Calming Update Presentation. Countywide (Charlie Wetzel, County  
Traffic Engineer)  
Mr. Wetzel and Fire Chief Matt Kinley addressed the Board and presented the Traffic  
Calming Update presentation. The Board asked several questions to staff and shared  
their comments. Board direction was for staff to circle back with the Commissioners to  
work out the details before the item goes on an agenda for approval.  
With regard to public participation, no one spoke, and public input was closed.  
Recess BCC Meeting Until 1:30 P.M.  
The Chairman recessed the meeting at 11:52 a.m.  
Reconvene Meeting at 1:30 P.M.  
Chairman Zembower reconvened the meeting at 1:30 p.m.. with all Commissioners and other  
Officials, with the exception of Clerk Maloy and Deputy Clerk Kyla Farrell who was replaced by  
Deputy Clerk Terri Porter, who were present at the opening session.  
VII. PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA  
Accept Proofs of Publication  
Motion by Commissioner Dallari, seconded by Vice Chairman Herr, to authorize the filing of  
the proofs of publication for this meeting’s scheduled public hearings into the Official Record.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
Public Hearings - Quasi - Judicial  
No ex parte communications were submitted.  
21.  
Advanced Autobody Small Scale Future Land Use Map Amendment -  
Consider a Small Scale Future Land Use Map Amendment from  
Commercial to Industrial for an existing autobody shop on approximately  
0.62 acres, located on the west side of S Ronald Reagan Boulevard,  
approximately 1/2 mile south of North Street; (Z2023-01/07.23SS.01)  
(JHR Consultants, Applicant) District4 - Lockhart (Annie Sillaway,  
Planning and Development Project Manager).  
Ordinance #2024-1  
Ms. Sillaway addressed the Board to present the item as outlined in the agenda  
memorandum (presentation received and filed).  
The Chairman determined the applicant was in attendance but had no comments to  
make.  
With regard to public participation, no one spoke in support or opposition, and public  
input was closed.  
Motion by Chairman Lockhart, seconded by Commissioner Dallari to adopt Ordinance  
#2024-1 enacting a Small Scale Future Land Use Map Amendment from Commercial  
to Industrial for an existing autobody shop on approximately 0.62 acres, located on the  
west side of S. Ronald Reagan Boulevard, approximately ½ mile south of North Street;  
as described in the proof of publication; JHR Consultants, Applicant.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
Public Hearings - Legislative  
22.  
Land Development Code Rewrite and Associated Comprehensive Plan  
Amendments -Consider the second reading of an Ordinance amending  
Chapter 1 - General Provisions, Chapter 5 - Administration, Chapter 35 -  
Subdivisions, Chapter 40 - Site Plan Approval, Chapter 60 - Arbor, and  
Chapter 80 - Construction, and a Repeal and Replace of Chapter 2  
Definitions and Chapter 30 - Zoning of the Seminole County Land  
Development Code and consider adoption of an Ordinance amending the  
Introduction and Future Land Use Element of the Comprehensive Plan.  
Countywide (Rebecca Hammock, Development Services Director)  
end  
Ordinance #2024-2  
Ordinance #2024-3  
Ms. Hammock addressed the Board to present the item as outlined in the agenda  
memorandum (presentation received and filed). She advised this is the second  
reading of an ordinance amending the Land Development Code and the adoption  
hearing for the associated Comprehensive Plan Amendments. She reviewed staff's  
request and noted the first reading of the ordinance and transmittal was on October 24,  
2023; and that staff did not receive any comments or objections after transmittal to the  
State and regional review agencies for the associated Comprehensive Plan  
Amendment. So, they are bringing those back to the Board for adoption in conjunction  
with the Land Development Code. She then reviewed the Code rewrites.  
Upon inquiry by Commissioner Constantine for the record, Ms. Hammock confirmed  
this is a living document and can be changed at any time if they recognize the need.  
With regard to public participation, the following spoke in support: Grey Wilson, on  
behalf of The Friends of the Wekiva River; and George Sellery. Both complimented  
staff on all of their efforts.  
With regard to public participation, no one else spoke, and public input was closed.  
Public Comment Forms were received and filed.  
Motion by Commissioner Constantine, seconded by Vice Chairman Herr, to adopt  
Ordinance #2024-2 amending Chapter 1 - General Provisions, Chapter 5 -  
Administration, Chapter 35 - Subdivisions, Chapter 40 - Site Plan Approval, Chapter 60  
- Arbor, and Chapter 80 - Construction, and a Repeal and Replace of Chapter 2 -  
Definitions and Chapter 30 - Zoning of the Seminole County Land Development Code;  
and Ordinance 2024-3 amending the Introduction and Future Land Use Element of the  
Comprehensive Plan; as described in the proof of publication.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
IIX. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT  
No report.  
IX. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT AND STAFF PRESENTATIONS  
23.  
Quarterly Budget Update - (Timothy Jecks, Management and Budget  
Director)  
Mr. Gray indicated he felt it was important, as they start kicking off the budget process  
for this next fiscal year, to bring up to the Board and to the public, on a quarterly basis,  
where they are and what the status of their revenues and expenditures are. He added  
the Board will be able to view this once their Dashboards are up and running, which  
should be very soon.  
Mr. Jecks addressed the Board to give a quick update of the first quarter revenues and  
expenditures (presentation received and filed). He mentioned the first quarter is 25%  
of the year, but a lot of their revenues come in delayed, so it is not expected they will  
see exactly 25% for each category.  
Mr. Jecks reviewed Major Revenues, Base Budget Expenditures, Personnel Lapse and  
Project Budgets (presentation received and filed).  
Commissioner Lockhart commented that Mr. Jecks mentioned that their gas taxes  
support transportation and she said their gas taxes are a drop in the bucket toward  
supporting transportation and roads. She thinks it is worth noting that a lot of these  
taxes that they collect do not come close to funding the actual needs that they support,  
and they often must supplement with General Fund dollars a great portion of the things  
that these other taxes are supposed to fund. She thinks moving forward this Board is  
going to have to have some candid conversations about this.  
Commissioner Dallari agreed with Commissioner Lockhart's comments. He addressed  
Mr. Jecks stating that if they look at the Tourism Tax for October from year to year,  
they are actually down by $140,000, and he asked if there was a reason for that. Mr.  
Jecks responded that his understanding is that the FY23 October collection was  
reflective of more people coming to Florida. If you look at the prior years, you see  
FY22 with $422,000; so he thinks it was more of a reflection at the beginning of FY23  
being ahead of where they normally are.  
Commissioner Dallari stated when he looks at the Gas Tax, the Gas Tax from year to  
year and month to month is actually almost $200,000 higher than last year. He thought  
that Tourism and the Gas Tax would go somewhat hand in hand. He just wants to see  
what the correlation is, so he is hoping Mr. Jecks will have additional information he  
could share with the Board at a later date. Mr. Jecks replied he absolutely would.  
Vice Chairman Herr stated she thinks it is fabulous that this information is going to end  
up on a Dashboard.  
Chairman Zembower specified he would like to see a percentage change comparison  
to the previous fiscal year. He thinks it would be helpful for the Board members to  
understand where they are trending as compared to the historical data from the  
previous year. Mr. Gray said they have that information and can provide that to the  
Commissioners.  
With regard to public participation, no one spoke in support or opposition, and public  
input was closed.  
X. DISTRICT COMMISSIONER REPORTS  
District 5 - Vice Chairman Herr  
Vice Chairman Herr reported she attended the Animal Control Board meeting in Allen Harris'  
absence, and it was a pleasure to be there with all the volunteers to share her appreciation of  
all of the work they do.  
District 1 - Commissioner Dallari  
Commissioner Dallari advised at the last MetroPlan Orlando meeting, they received a handout  
of the Top 30 High-Injury Network Roads designations for Seminole, Orange and Osceola  
counties, and he has asked staff to share that with the Commissioners.  
As the alternate, he attended the last CALNO meeting, and at the end of the meeting, a  
couple of individuals and mayors from some of the different cities asked what Seminole was  
doing with the funding they are getting from the "opioids." He assured them that their County  
Manager would be speaking with their city managers about that because they are trying to  
figure out how they can all partner together. He expects there will be an update at a later date  
from Mr. Gray regarding this. Mr. Gray indicated Chairman Zembower and he have a Mayors  
and Managers meeting next week, and that is on the agenda to discuss.  
Commissioner Dallari reported he attended the ECNL Girls games last weekend and stated it  
was truly amazing. They have held this event for many years at the Lake Sylvan fields and  
Orlando Soccer fields, but because of the rain, they had to switch to the Boombah Sports  
Complex by the Sanford Airport. He commented that moving an event of this size and  
magnitude was truly amazing. Everyone was so thankful to have the facility and staff handled  
it flawlessly. They moved it back to Sylvan Lake on Sunday and he said staff did a  
phenomenal job with preparing those fields.  
Commissioner Dallari commented he was at the Wekiva Island Winter Wonderland and that  
Santa's Workshop was truly "Disney-esque."  
24.  
Board Appointments  
Motion by Commissioner Dallari, seconded by Commissioner Constantine, to reappoint  
Don Peterson to the Code Enforcement Board for a three-year term beginning January  
1, 2024; Anne "Sheeba" West to the Library Advisory Board for a two-year term  
beginning January 1, 2024; and the appointment of Brandy Ioppolo to the Planning and  
Zoning Commission due to Stephen Smith's resignation, which was due to a conflict;  
and Cindy Harkins to Parks and Preservation Advisory Committee for a two-year term  
beginning January 1, 2024.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
District 3 - Commissioner Constantine  
Commissioner Constantine said he is very much looking forward to the new Fire Station #11  
opening up on the 19th. He noted that was the first station that went with consolidation with  
Seminole County helping them to be the "Class 1" that they are today when they merged with  
Altamonte Springs.  
The Commissioner advised the Florida Association of Counties' Legislative Day is on the 17th.  
It is the first day of the Legislative Session today and SB1184 concerns the rural boundary  
that they need to be looking at, and there is a "glitch" bill going through today at 4pm at the  
Community Affairs Committee concerning the Live Local Act, which is going to be an  
improvement with a lot of the concerns they had about industrial height and a few other things  
like that. One thing they do have to worry about is an alternative mobility fee bill that has  
been filed.  
District 4 - Commissioner Lockhart  
Commissioner Lockhart stated she had an opportunity to work with the County Attorney's  
Office in connection with the Canvassing Board. There was a question about the timing with  
this being in 2024, whether the Chairman would be allowed to have her continue to serve on  
the Canvassing Board for the Presidential Preference election in March, even though she  
plans on actively supporting Amy Pennock and potentially others for Supervisor of Elections  
on the August 2024 ballot. So the question is, if she is supporting someone publicly in 2024,  
can she still serve on the Presidential Preference primary in March, and the answer was,  
"yes," because the way the law is written, you cannot be actively supporting someone on the  
ballot with which you are canvassing. She wanted to put everyone on notice that she will not  
be able to serve in August, so the Chairman will have to start the process of finding someone  
else to serve in that role for 2024 because of her decision to support someone on that ballot.  
(Written communications regarding this received and filed.)  
In connection with fiber optics and WOW, Commissioner Lockhart thanked staff who is  
continuing to try to work with them. She stated they continue to wreak havoc in her district  
and the types of damage that is being done include water lines being torn up and then roads  
failing because of the water. It is an absolute disaster. She knows Kristian Swenson,  
Assistant County Manager, is continuing to work with them trying to get things together, but  
they are still really struggling.  
Commissioner Lockhart mentioned she will be attending the Scottish Highland Games and the  
FAC Legislative Conference.  
Commissioner Lockhart advised they received a letter dated December 29, 2023, but it was  
not included in the Chairman's Submissions, so she will give it to the Clerk for that purpose  
(received and filed). The letter came from a resident in her district talking about the WMCA  
on Longwood/Lake Mary Road. She opined they are going to be in these situations regularly  
now where community members think that when something private decides to close, that it will  
be the Government's responsibility to buy it and keep it open, or repurpose it in some way,  
shape or form. She acknowledged they do have a Joint Use Agreement with the Lake Mary  
High School Swim Team and they use that for practices, so there is a public purpose currently  
being served there. She advised she has a meeting set up with executive team members of  
this "Y" and Amy Pennock, and noted this is also Ms. Pennock's School Board District, to talk  
about what the ramifications could be and what options there may be. She said she will let  
the Board know how that meeting goes.  
District 2 - Chairman Zembower  
Chairman Zembower talked about "Martin Luther King Day" and the activities and events to  
take place.  
Chairman Zembower noted that some proclamations are on the agenda as presentations and  
some are just listed in the Consent portion. He would like staff to get with the Commissioners  
to see what they prefer and then put it in the Code or put something in there so it carries  
forward.  
He advised he has also been in contact with Wide Open West (WOW), the internet company.  
There are issues in his district right now because of some of the things that have been going  
on in the news media and social media. He thinks staff is on top of all of this. He has actually  
looked into this and learned there have certainly been mistakes made by the vendor and their  
subcontractors, but there have also been problems with the marking of the lines, the locator  
services who are a third party that come in and mark lines, and for whatever reason have not  
always marked them right. They also discovered in other parts of the county and in certain  
cities, there is no historic documentation of where certain HIP structure actually is. He  
advised he has spoken to the CEO of WOW, and they have assured him that they will take  
care of each and every problem and put it back the way it is supposed to be. Staff now has  
contact information to reach the CEO.  
Commissioner Constantine stated the Cities had put together a task force and Seminole is  
now a part of that and they are all working together. He pointed out that it also involves other  
companies like AT&T. He noted the County does not have control over this because it is a  
state legislative requirement that they have the right to use the public right-of-way. The  
County can help the neighbors in contacting WOW and the others to get in there and fix the  
problems. This is the problem that happens when they take away local control of public  
right-of-way.  
25.  
Board Appointments  
Motion by Chairman Zembower, seconded by Vice Chairman Herr, to appoint Andre F.  
Hickman to the Tourism Development Council for a three-year term replacing Jamie  
Ross who has termed out.  
Districts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 voted AYE.  
XI. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT  
CORRESPONDENCE AND/OR REPORTS  
1. Letter dated January 5, 2024 from Chairman Zembower to The Sharing Center in  
support of grant funding for the Five Points Village affordable housing project.  
2. Letter dated December 29, 2023 from Mark Kamrath, Longwood citizen, to  
Commissioner Lockhart requesting consideration by the County to partner with other  
municipalities or entities to keep the J. Douglas Williams YMCA in Lake Mary from  
closing. cc: Warren Yon, WMCA; David Mealor, Mayor, City of Lake Mary; and  
Seminole County Commissioners.  
3. Letter dated December 12, 2023 from BCC Chairman Jay Zembower to Terri Porter,  
VAB Clerk, regarding Commissioners selected to serve on the Value Adjustment Board  
effective May 1, 2024. cc: Board of County Commissioners and County Commission  
Records.  
XII. PUBLIC COMMENT (Items not Related to the Agenda)  
Michael Hagerty addressed the Board stating he is passionate about helping animals. He  
spoke of his support for Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Utah as a donor and a friend. He  
also supports other animal charities including Pet Alliance in Seminole County and Orlando.  
He said he attended a recent Animal Control Board meeting and expressed his concern that  
the next meeting will not be held until March, because he thought there may be another 300 to  
400 animals put down by then. He suggested they consider a task force that moves things  
along quickly. He recommended they change the name of the Animal Control Board to the  
Animal Welfare Board.  
Robert Warner addressed the Board and advised he is the campaign manager for Change  
Saves Seminole. He shared a personal story about growing up in foster care and bullying that  
he endured by other children. He found solace in a large black Labrador named Buddy. He  
opined with the combined efforts of the community and the support of Best Friends Animal  
Society and the collaboration with shelter leadership and the Board, he believes they can  
make a difference.  
With regard to public participation, no one else spoke, and public input was closed.  
Public Comment Forms were received and filed.  
Vice Chairman Herr stated she would like Mr. Harris to speak to get fact on the record. The  
insinuation that hundreds of animals are going to die between now and March is offensive and  
completely inaccurate. She added the name of the department in the county is Animal  
Services and it expands well beyond kennels.  
Alan Harris, Director of Emergency Management which includes Animal Services, addressed  
the Board stating he has with him today Steven Lerner, who is currently the Interim Animal  
Services Division Manager.  
Mr. Harris addressed the facts in connection with animal services in the county including the  
definition of no-kill shelters. He noted that on the website of the campaign that Mr. Warner  
talked about, it states that Change Saves Seminole is a community movement to end the  
unnecessary killing of healthy and/or treatable dogs and cats at local shelters. Mr. Harris  
advised they are an open shelter that took in 6,779 animals last year, and that they get all  
types of animals and they are not all in wonderful conditions. He said zero is the number of  
euthanized animals due to space in their shelter, due to breed, and due to length of stay. All  
animals that needed to be euthanized were assessed by their medical team and then  
determined they were not going to make it or their quality of life was going to be so bad. He  
relayed a recent story where one of their vet techs, Nicole, stayed up all night with a dog that  
was badly burned rubbing ointment on it throughout the entire night to help keep it soothed,  
even though the emergency vet thought the animal might not make it through the weekend.  
Mr. Harris advised their primary purpose at Animal Services is the welfare of the animals and  
the public's safety, and he explained the instances when they would have to euthanize any  
animal.  
Commissioner Lockhart stated she will be very candid because they have entertained this  
specific "volunteer" group's interest in providing this County support now for many months.  
She is not interested in entertaining it anymore. This group created the "Change Saves  
Seminole" Facebook group complete with logo before they had ever even reached out to the  
County's Emergency Management team, and that is documented. They created the page on  
October 2, 2023, and Mr. Harris received the first email from that group asking to have contact  
with them after that date. So Seminole was already identified as a target, a logo had already  
been created, and it didn't really matter what information the County had. The decision was  
made; it was a solution looking for a problem.  
Commissioner Lockhart indicated she had looked at this group's 990. The last one on the IRS  
webpage is from 2020; she did find their 2021 on another webpage. They have over $100  
million in assets, including a hotel in the Virgin Islands. She said if they would like to come  
and rescue all of the animals in Seminole County and give them wonderful homes and buy a  
piece of property here and do the wonderful thing they are doing in Utah here in Seminole  
County to save all the animals here, that they have the assets and the resources to do that.  
As a donor, someone can look at their 990 because it is a public record.  
Commissioner Lockhart advised that she, along with the County Attorney, Mr. Harris and Mr.  
Lerner, attended a meeting via electronic media and what she would describe the tone to be  
was, "You will accept our offer to help, or else." She never got to what the "or else" was, but  
the clear implication to her is that this bombardment of a social media campaign and  
everything they have invested their time, energy and resources into that is focused on  
Seminole County is for their own purposes. She does not desire to work with an organization  
as a "partner" that behaves this way.  
Commissioner Constantine noted that Seminole was the first county to do reports on  
greyhound injuries, and even had to go to court in connection with those races; one of the first  
in the state to adopt a backyard chicken ordinance, one of the first - if not the first county - to  
try to eliminate puppy mills. They have a rule of having no exotic animal shows, and were the  
first in the state to adopt an urban bear ordinance. They have a no-sale rule, only adoption, in  
all of their pet stores, which other counties tried to do and could not. They have a registry of  
animal abusers. The Humane Society awarded Seminole for all of the things they have done  
in connection with the protection of animals and commented they are leader in that.  
Commissioners Dallari and Herr listed a few more stating that the list goes on and on.  
Commissioner Constantine advised he has observed the activity that Mr. Warner's  
organization has undertaken and opined it is nothing short of attempted extortion by an entity  
trying to raise money from its donors under the false pretense that this county is not doing  
good work and not doing the people's work. The group continues to endeavor upon this  
extortion campaign from their donors all over the country, from places that do not even know  
where Seminole County is located. He offered if their organization wants to come here, they  
will help with the permitting process and finding a location. They can set up their own shelter  
and they can handle all the animals they desire, or they can fly one of their lavish jets into  
Orlando Sanford International Airport and load animals up and take them to Utah. This Board  
has no interest in doing business with this organization, and their extortion campaign is a  
shame and a crime on the taxpayers of this county for the amount of time that this has taken  
away from individuals who are trying to help the same entities that they claim are not being  
helped.  
Vice Chairman Herr wanted to put it on the record that Mr. Hagerty is a volunteer speaking out  
on behalf of animals and they appreciate him caring that much to be here.  
XIII. ADJOURN BCC MEETING  
There being no further business to come before the Board, the Chairman declared the  
meeting adjourned at 2:35 p.m., this same date.  
APPROVED by the BCC:  
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Chairman  
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Date  
ATTEST:  
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Clerk of Court and Comptroller  
AS Clerk to the BCC